Say it with me everyone:
Stopping violence against women is a fight to get women taken seriously.
Violence against men isn’t taken seriously because women are perceived as weak and fragile
When women are taken seriously, violence against men will be too.
Because right now it is culturally unfathomable that a man couldn’t defend himself against a woman.
Your problems stem from anti-feminism and misogyny. Now get your ass on the right side and stop trying fighting us. We have the same problem.
No. Women are taken far too seriously. Look at the Primary Aggressor laws, the courtroom assessment PACs, lack of due process in college rape accusations where they base everything on what the woman says, or how DNA testing to prove if someone is/is not the father doesn’t count as evidence to determine child support but the woman’s word is.
Sorry, but us having the same problem would be that women and men BOTH get taken to jail whenever the cops respond to a domestic complaint. It would be that BOTH men and women have nearly all of their take home cash go to alimony and BOTH genders get sent to jail when they miss a month or two. It would be when BOTH genders are equally homeless and suicide victims. It would be when BOTH genders are considered disposable. It would be when hitting a man or a woman is funny and laughable and when either gender tried to defend themselves that’s when it gets real because everyone knows that men and woman simply deserve to be hit, otherwise, why would they be getting hit, right?
First off thank you for reblogging my picture thefourwindsbar but you are completely mistaken in your interpretation of it, and deliberately so I think. MRAs are the right side, feminists are not. The problem is feminists.
It was feminists who fought against gender neutral language in laws like VAWA that would have applied the law equally to everyone regardless of sex, gender, orientation. It was MRAs who support gender neutrality in the law. It was MRAs working with groups like SAVE (Stop Abusive and Violent Enviroments) services and NCFM to lobby congress to adopt new gender neutral language that would protect everyone including same-sex relationships. Something that prominent feminist lobbying groups fought against.
The picture you have used was made to illustrate the fact that even if feminists achieve their fund-raising claim of supposed of ending intimate partner violence, they only work to see it ending against women. They will not have stopped intimate partner violence at all because they refuse to acknowledge that anyone but women are effected by IPV.
When some lesbians began pointing out that the gendered language in laws like VAWA was not helpful or inclusive of their community they were also silenced and ignored.
“Your problems stem from anti-feminism and misogyny. Now get your ass on the right side and stop trying fighting us. We have the same problem.”
No. Men’s problems stem from feminism and misandry. If feminists would stop road-blocking any honest discussion of the issues both men and women (of all races, orientations, etc.) face then maybe we - all of us - face, and we can actually get something done for once.
We have the same problems or at least similar, yes but a lot of the problems today have been created, dun dun dun, by feminists. So maybe you should stop trying to silence, dismiss, and fight MRAs. Instead maybe you could listen to MRAs (not just someone who calls themself an MRA on the internet). Maybe you’ll find yourself finally getting on the right side and working for true equality.
But nobody here will hold their breath, because we’ve seen years of feminists doing nothing but attacking MRAs, shouting “patriarchy hurts men” and “feminism fights for men’s rights too” all the while attacking and roadblocking anything that would make real change and anyone who refuses to regurgitate the feminists party line.
Maybe you can listen to what people are saying. You might be surprised at what you will learn.